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		<title>By: Joanna Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanna Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 10:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mitchell, thanks for this question.  I know it&#039;s one that troubles a lot of people.

The difference is in the number of authors that we are talking about.  If there is only one you&#039;d use &quot;author&#039;s&quot;.  &quot;The author&#039;s books.&quot;

If you are talking about more than one author we have to use the plural, adding an &quot;s&quot;.  &quot;There are two authors in the room.&quot;  The apostrophe comes in to play if something belongs to them.  This time though you add it after the final &quot;s&quot;.  &quot;Those are the authors&#039; books.&quot;

The shift from &quot;author&#039;s books&quot; to &quot;authors&#039; books&quot; tells us that there&#039;s more than one author in the second example.

You only use this form when the word adds an &quot;s&quot; in the plural.  If it doesn&#039;t (like women in the original example) you form the possessive with apostrophe then &quot;s&quot;, so &quot;women&#039;s toilet&quot;.

I hope this helps.  Let me know if you&#039;ve any more questions.

Joanna


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mitchell, thanks for this question.  I know it&#8217;s one that troubles a lot of people.</p>
<p>The difference is in the number of authors that we are talking about.  If there is only one you&#8217;d use &#8220;author&#8217;s&#8221;.  &#8220;The author&#8217;s books.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you are talking about more than one author we have to use the plural, adding an &#8220;s&#8221;.  &#8220;There are two authors in the room.&#8221;  The apostrophe comes in to play if something belongs to them.  This time though you add it after the final &#8220;s&#8221;.  &#8220;Those are the authors&#8217; books.&#8221;</p>
<p>The shift from &#8220;author&#8217;s books&#8221; to &#8220;authors&#8217; books&#8221; tells us that there&#8217;s more than one author in the second example.</p>
<p>You only use this form when the word adds an &#8220;s&#8221; in the plural.  If it doesn&#8217;t (like women in the original example) you form the possessive with apostrophe then &#8220;s&#8221;, so &#8220;women&#8217;s toilet&#8221;.</p>
<p>I hope this helps.  Let me know if you&#8217;ve any more questions.</p>
<p>Joanna</p>
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		<title>By: Mitchell Hollins</title>
		<link>http://confidentwriting.com/2007/04/whats_in_an_apo/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitchell Hollins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 05:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is the difference between {Authors&#039;} and {Author&#039;s}?
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		<title>By: Joanna Young</title>
		<link>http://confidentwriting.com/2007/04/whats_in_an_apo/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanna Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rich - afraid I don&#039;t know about the men&#039;s sign as it was Seth that took the original photo.  In any event &quot;men&quot; would be in the same boat as &quot;women&quot; as a plural word that doesn&#039;t end in s.

I can&#039;t really imagine the signwriter thought the word for &quot;more than one female&quot; was &quot;womens&quot; so yes in some way it&#039;s a possessive problem.  They were thinking about the women&#039;s toilet but forgot the apostrophe.  Of course they could have saved themselves some bother by avoiding the possessive altogether though which I think is what happens on most signs: &quot;Women&quot;. &quot;Men&quot;.  Nice and easy.

There is a different question as to how much this really matters - yes it looks bad on the writer, and it is a good reminder that apostrophes matter - but at the end of the day does it still work as a clear and effective sign?

Joanna
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rich &#8211; afraid I don&#8217;t know about the men&#8217;s sign as it was Seth that took the original photo.  In any event &#8220;men&#8221; would be in the same boat as &#8220;women&#8221; as a plural word that doesn&#8217;t end in s.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t really imagine the signwriter thought the word for &#8220;more than one female&#8221; was &#8220;womens&#8221; so yes in some way it&#8217;s a possessive problem.  They were thinking about the women&#8217;s toilet but forgot the apostrophe.  Of course they could have saved themselves some bother by avoiding the possessive altogether though which I think is what happens on most signs: &#8220;Women&#8221;. &#8220;Men&#8221;.  Nice and easy.</p>
<p>There is a different question as to how much this really matters &#8211; yes it looks bad on the writer, and it is a good reminder that apostrophes matter &#8211; but at the end of the day does it still work as a clear and effective sign?</p>
<p>Joanna</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://confidentwriting.com/2007/04/whats_in_an_apo/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first thing I thought of when I saw this was, &quot;What did the Men&#039;s sign say?&quot; Is this a plural issue, the signmaker not realizing that &quot;Women&quot; was already plural, or is it a possessive problem?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing I thought of when I saw this was, &#8220;What did the Men&#8217;s sign say?&#8221; Is this a plural issue, the signmaker not realizing that &#8220;Women&#8221; was already plural, or is it a possessive problem?</p>
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